Hi Hal,
Yes, I agree - if you were in a store and could not understand the clerk then you would be doing the store a favor by pointing it out.
But that is because the store is there to sell you things, that is the clerk's job. You are a customer, they are a seller.
This is *not* a store - it's a mailing list of people who are here because of different reasons. Such lists exist for people to talk (well, write) . If I were in a pub with a bunch of people and someone was talking who I did not understand I would not proceed to give him or her a lecture on how to talk - I would just ignore them.
Criticizing people for the way they write rather than what they are writing about strikes me as going against what mailing lists and discussion groups are about.
Mick
Hal Vaughan <hal@thresholddigita
Actually, the reason I wrote what I did is because I think this person
is capable of making some quite good points, but I know I skip most of
what she says for the reasons I indicated. In many ways, pointing out
something like that is a favor. If I go into a store and am treated
rudely by a clerk and just leave, never to go back, I'm letting the
clerk hurt the store, but if I point out to the manager what is going
on, then I'm helping them and potentially keeping them from losing
business.
Yes, it's a discussion, but there are minimal standards for just a
discussion. If I get invited over to someone's house to watch TV for
an evening and show up in my underwear only, what does that say about
me and how will they see me? There are minimal standards for almost
any human interaction.
> Sorry hal but all the "I am not attacking the writer.." waffle
> doesn't mean that your post is anything other than an ad hominem.
Yes, and now. I'm focusing on the behavior, not on her. It's a fine
line, but it's one I had to work with all the time in special ed. It's
just as if someone makes a long post talking about how wonderful their
new MLM is and any of us take it apart. We may be focusing on their
lack of logic, their lack of reasoning, their opinions and so on. This
is focusing on the writer's lack of effort in communicating.
I also know that you're not going to scream that I disagree with you and
that you're someone I can openly disagree with and there not be a nasty
shouting war or pouting. I see your points and considered them all
before posting. Personally, I could barely understand what the writer
was saying, otherwise I would not have responded as I did.
Hal
> Mick
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> Hal Vaughan <hal@thresholddigita
> This isn't meant as an attack on who the writer is or what
> she thinks, but it is a point to all those who don't care enough to
> make their posts readable. (And I repeat that paragraph a number of
> times in this message to make the point it's not about her, it's
> about posts written so poorly it's hard to know what is being said.)
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> On Saturday 28 July 2007, bitch_n_pack wrote:
> > ---hi, i like jen also am wondering why?? you would be using so
> > much of this stuff.
> > if you have a dog off his tucker hes crook usually. or the foods
> > not appealing, or its just plain too well fed..
> > a fast day also works! and its free!
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> This isn't meant as an attack on who the writer is or what she
> thinks, but it is a point to all those who don't care enough to make
> their posts readable.
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> I stopped reading this post here. Why? I couldn't follow it or
> understand it. I'm not trying to be judgemental or condescending,
> but this has come up before. I have a learning disability and,
> without spellcheck, would have a terrible time making sure my email
> was readable (no, not dyslexia, but not far off). I work hard and
> have to retype many words and sentences because I get letters and
> words mixed up. I do that because I want people to understand what
> I'm writing.
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