This isn't meant as an attack on who the writer is or what she thinks,
but it is a point to all those who don't care enough to make their
posts readable. (And I repeat that paragraph a number of times in this
message to make the point it's not about her, it's about posts written
so poorly it's hard to know what is being said.)
On Saturday 28 July 2007, bitch_n_pack wrote:
> ---hi, i like jen also am wondering why?? you would be using so much
> of this stuff.
> if you have a dog off his tucker hes crook usually. or the foods not
> appealing, or its just plain too well fed..
> a fast day also works! and its free!
This isn't meant as an attack on who the writer is or what she thinks,
but it is a point to all those who don't care enough to make their
posts readable.
I stopped reading this post here. Why? I couldn't follow it or
understand it. I'm not trying to be judgemental or condescending, but
this has come up before. I have a learning disability and, without
spellcheck, would have a terrible time making sure my email was
readable (no, not dyslexia, but not far off). I work hard and have to
retype many words and sentences because I get letters and words mixed
up. I do that because I want people to understand what I'm writing.
I started reading this wonder if the writer likes Jen or is like Jen,
then I see "why??" and think the question marks indicate the end of a
sentence, but then I read on and I"m not clear if I should read it like
this:
Hi, I like Jen also. Am wonder why? You would be using so much of this
stuff?
Or:
Hi, I, like Jen, also, am wondering why? You would be using so much of
this stuff?
Or:
Hi, I, like Jen, also, am wondering why you would be using so much of
this stuff.
This isn't meant as an attack on who the writer is or what she thinks,
but it is a point to all those who don't care enough to make their
posts readable.
If, when I was teaching English, I wanted something to use to illustrate
how confusing a sentence or patchwork of phrases could be without any
punctuation, this would be perfect. The question marks tell me this
person can use a shift key, but I *HONSETLY* just cannot be sure what
is being written.
I know this writer has said she has RA and she doesn't "bother with
capitals unless for real emphasis" (her own words). However, that is
no excuse for something that is as hard to read as that first sentence.
It doesn't stop there. I kept reading, but was so confused when I
stopped I thought, "If this isn't important enough to the writer to
make the effort to ensure it's readable, why should I make even more
effort to read it than the writer took to write it?"
This post would have been a lot clearer if the writer had taken all the
effort used for the extra question marks, multiple periods, all caps
words, and so on, and put that same effort into just a minimal amount
of punctuation to make it clear. Does emphasizing something make a
difference if the reader can barely tell what's being said in the first
place? (And the Australian vs. American grammar has nothing to do with
these issues.)
I was sympathetic to the RA point at first, but it seems quite clear to
me at this point that the issue is not RA, but a willingness to just
dash off something without focusing on making it readable. RA has
nothing to do with this.
I know I'm going to get attacked for this and will likely be called a
nasty bastard because I'm daring to be non-pc in regards to a
disability, but I spent years teaching the disabled and had to learn
when to separate the disability from the result and, after having read
posts like this for a while, think this is one of those times.
This isn't meant as an attack on who the writer is or what she thinks,
but it is a point to all those who don't care enough to make their
posts readable.
Language is the tool we use for communication, to make our views known,
to express our feelings, and it is the tool we use for thinking and
reasoning. When I was a kid, I learned woodworking from my Father.
There are times I see someone who doesn't know how to hold a hammer or
knows that you have to account for the thickness of the saw blade when
cutting wood. When I see someone who can't handle the tools well
trying to do woodworking, what do I know about their ability as a
woodworking craftsman? By that extension, when I (or any of us) see
someone using the tools of thought, logic, and communication poorly,
what conclusion will most of us draw of that person?
Yes, I'm being nasty, but I'm also doing Laurel a big favor by holding
her to the standards that most people on this list do their best to
meet: I'm encouraging her to present herself in a way that doesn't make
educated people wonder if she is clear, in her own mind, what she's
talking about.
This isn't meant as an attack on who the writer is or what she thinks,
but it is a point to all those who don't care enough to make their
posts readable.
I'm hesitant to post this because I don't want to jump on someone, but I
am posting it because I'm selfish enough to want to be able to
understand what others are saying. If I have experience in reading and
helping students clarify poorly written text and have trouble reading
this, then I'm sure I'm not the only one.
Hal
> i know of no natural item that could do this.. Cortisone will do it
> everytime so? do you even have a solid readable INGREDIENT LIST??
> in aust i sold powdered form probiotics,( i ran a pet shop) the
> largest size lasted ages for 120$
> there are some vitamin supplements from vets too, but i find a long
> walk and a 2 hour wait while they cool down and they are full on, in
> bowls. and munching.
> in the takes the cake dept..
> a friends sisters cat is now on anti depressants!
> the carpet.... a good snootfull of water as its about to pee would
> save her and the cat
> i seriously advise you to find a more natural solution,Laurel
>
> > I seem to remember reading one of your posts on XSO where you said
> > that you were a member of an anti MLM list.
> >
> > I have a question that I hope you can help me with. Feel free to
> > forward this to anyone else who may know something about these
>
> people.
>
> > There's something called Fastrack which is a microbial gel that I
> > have been using on my dogs for years. We first came across it in a
> > natural pet food store in Florida. The stuff works absolutely
>
> great.
>
> > If a dog won't eat, you put some of it in his moth and within one
>
> to
>
> > two minutes he's looking for his bowel.
> >
> > Having 4 dogs, we go through a lot of it.
> >
> > The store we got it from stopped carrying it a while back because
> > of "issues with the company" that distributed it. We started buying
> > it off the internet from another distributor. He then stopped
> > carrying it because of "issues with the company" that distributed
>
> it.
>
> > I talked to this guy and he told me that Conklin was an MLM and
> > essentially wouldn't allow him to sell it any more.
> >
> > I found the actual website of the place that distributes it
> > (Conklin).
> >
> > http://www.conklin.
> >
> > I called their Customer Service department to try to find a way I
> > could buy it. In the conversation I had, the CSR told me she could
> > give me the name of a local distributor or, if I paid them $25, I
> > could essentailly buy it from Conklin directly at a reduced cost.
>
> (I
>
> > would prefer to buy it directly, anyway, as the stuff has a "shelf
> > life", being live microbes. I'm afraid of buying it from someone
>
> who
>
> > has it in their house, allowing it to expire.)
> >
> > If I paid them the $25, I'd be kind of in a "low end distributor"
> > status.
> >
> > I'm willing to do this. The stuff isn't cheap, and, as I say, we
>
> use
>
> > a lot of it. It would be worth the $25 to me.
> >
> > However, I got very wary when she told me the procedure. I had to
> > contact another Conklin distributor in my area and fill out and
>
> sign
>
> > some paperwork. (I'm attaching it.)
> >
> > What do you think? if I sign on with these people just so I can buy
> > this stuff, will it be a problem? Will they keep calling me and
> > bugging me to do things, "COS style"? Does this commit me to
>
> anything
>
> > I don't want to do?
> >
> > This local distributor has already caled me twice to "help me fill
> > out the paperwork", so I already have apprehension.
> >
> > Please let me know what you think. And, like I said, feel free to
> > forward this to anyone who might know about these guys.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Maggi
>
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