This is
> the same woman who told me that geese can fly as high as the space
> shuttle along with other levels of BS.
Someone here also tried to tell me that "bee's were not made to fly,
don't believe everything I hear," (and you had to go look it up, and
find that it was an urban legend, know it all!) :@)
--- In mlmsurvivorsclub@
>
> On Tuesday 17 July 2007, momluvseliana wrote:
> > Oh my goodness, this is an all to familiar email to me. It is
all
> > MLM speak I guess. My cousin said the exact same thing to me, if
you
> > go back and read it. She said something about keeping
my "negative
> > opinions to myself" blah blah blah. This is really weird twisted
> > stuff. If only they could read what we write about them. Would
> > they even consider that they could be brainwashed?
>
> No, they don't. Ask anyone in a cult. They love it and they came
to it
> of their own free will. That's why I use the word evil. They
bring
> people in, then start gradually reprogramming them until they've
> changed a good and sometimes innocent person into a tool or weapon
that
> seeks out other innocent people and empties their bank accounts.
>
> > I mean why would
> > we even care if we weren't all truly affected by this stuff. (I
am
> > not too close to that cousin in law of mine, so I told her to
read
> > this forum)
> > Questions: So when do MLM people start to realize that this
could
> > be a scheme? How do they snap out of it?
>
> It depends on the person.
>
> > I like what Hal wrote about projection, it makes perfect sense to
> > me. But why are people like that? Are some people just closed
> > minded?
>
> I wouldn't say it's closed minded. Often it's because they don't
want
> to see inside themsevles. They're sure, from their point of view,
that
> they're right. In the case of Quackstar (and I just refuse to
give
> them the honor of using their real name), they've been programmed
with
> a number of false messages. Many times at their meetings and
> conventions they whip people up into a frenzy, then overload them
with
> loud music and a light show or something else, and essentially
overload
> their senses so they can't process anything anymore and have to
just
> let it go through them. That's when they hit them with the
nonsense
> lines that aren't logical but sound logical. People hear that and
just
> accept it as true. This happens over and over until they believe
it.
> (Which is why they say to keep listening to the tapes and CDs.)
>
> Then you or I come in with actual facts and logic and we tell them
what
> we know. To them, we don't make sense because our facts don't fit
into
> their structure that they've been (literally) programmed to
believe.
>
> There are also many people that aren't in Quackstar that project
because
> they just don't want to face their own inadequacies. There's a
woman
> where I used to work part time who got mad when I had the answers
to
> some scientific issues and kept calling me a "know it all." This
is
> the same woman who told me that geese can fly as high as the space
> shuttle along with other levels of BS.
(Someone here also said that "bee's were not made to fly" (and you
had to go look it up, smartass!)
She tried to explain
> translucency to me and treats me like I don't know anything, but
I've
> taught chemistry and physics before and, honestly, have forgotten
more
> than she knows. Notice that I cite a background to my knowledge.
I'm
> giving it an objective measurement and citing a proof that I know
what
> I'm talking about. She has no such background and couldn't even
cite
> watching Nova or The Discovery Channel as part of her education,
but
> she wants to believe she's smart and educated, so she can't stand
me
> citing anything that contradicts what she has said. She wants to
be
> the one with all the answers, so if I dare answer anything
correctly,
> at some level she's mad and jealous that I did it and she didn't.
> She's mad at me, so she feels the need to call me names. A closer
way
> to hit it is that I'm doing what she wants, so she hates me for
it, and
> sees me as doing what she wants which bugs the heck out of her, so
she
> jumps on me for being the one to do it instead of her.
>
> Okay, that's rambling a bit, but, to be honest, the way I write,
it'd
> take a few hours of editing to state it better.
>
> > If someone told me to simply question or research
> > the "business opportunity" I would be greatful.
>
> Okay, question and research each business opportunity you're ever
> presented with.
>
> What amazes me is that there must be some kind of "sniffer" that
can
> tell when you're suddenly making more money or are inheriting
money. I
> get more people now with investment ideas or suggestions or
businesses
> they need help starting now than have ever approached me before.
I
> just follow Nancy Reagan's advice and just say no. I've yet to
regret
> it and I don't have time to research all of them.
>
> > Instead people who
> > are already involved think you are judgemental and negative.
That
> > is absolutely ignorant to me. (I know some of you were victims
of
> > MLM's, please take no offense.)
>
> There's a big difference between an MLMer and an ex-MLMer. It's
like th
> difference between an alcoholic and a recovering alcoholic.
>
> Hal
>
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